Episode 50

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Published on:

8th May 2025

Great CTOs Think Like Product Managers with Mark Eagle

The Evolution of Technical Roles in Modern Startups πŸš€

In this illuminating conversation, Matt Watson engages with Mark Eagle, a veteran startup advisor and former CTO, to explore the transformative landscape of technical leadership in today's startup ecosystem. They delve into the critical misalignment between prestigious job titles and actual responsibilities, focusing on the evolving CTO role.

Mark shares valuable insights on how product thinking is rapidly becoming the defining skill for technical leaders as AI revolutionizes software development practices. Together, they unpack why understanding customer needs, business objectives, and strategic decision-making fundamentally differentiates exceptional technical leaders from those who primarily focus on coding.

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Key Discussion Points:

πŸ—οΈ The fundamental misalignment between CTO titles and actual responsibilities in early-stage startups

πŸ’‘ Why the combination of product thinking and technical architecture creates successful technical leaders

πŸ”„ How AI and modern development tools are shifting bottlenecks from engineering to product decision-making

πŸ‘‚ The undervalued importance of listening skills for both engineers and sales professionals

πŸŒ‰ Practical strategies for connecting engineers directly with customers to improve outcomes

🧠 Why strategic trade-off conversations are critical yet frequently overlooked

πŸš€ The accelerating future of software development as AI capabilities expand

🌱 Intentional versus unintentional technical debt management


Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Welcome

00:26 - The Challenges Beyond Technical Skills

01:19 - Defining the CTO Role: Common Misconceptions

03:16 - The Formula for Startup CTO Success

05:15 - How Agile Lost Customer Connection

07:19 - The Importance of Strategic Trade-off Conversations

09:22 - Why Every Executive Is in Sales

11:49 - The Critical Listening Skills for Engineers

14:30 - The Real Product: User Value, Not Code

17:24 - Scaling Beyond Individual Coding

20:47 - The Coming Shift: AI's Impact on Development

22:06 - Product Thinking vs. Technical Skills

24:19 - Closing Thoughts and Contact Information


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About the Podcast

Product Driven
How to build better software and software teams
Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.

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