Episode 30

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Published on:

20th Feb 2025

How to Talk to Software Engineers with Josh Herzig-Marx

🎯 Engineering Communication Excellence: Breaking Down Barriers with Josh Herzig-Marx

A deep dive into transforming how product teams communicate with engineers, featuring expert insights from coach Josh Herzig-Marx. Learn practical frameworks for better collaboration, effective requirement documentation, and creating a culture of open dialogue in tech teams.

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🔑 Key Discussion Points:

Why perfect documentation isn't the answer and what to focus on instead

The power of visual storytelling in product development

How to engage engineers earlier in the product process

Transforming engineers from order-takers to strategic partners

Creating psychological safety for better team conversations

⏱️ Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction and Background

02:11 - Early Stage Company Challenges

04:04 - The Problem with Perfect Documentation

07:18 - Managing Trade-offs in Development

13:07 - User Story Mapping and Visual Tools

16:44 - The Power of Storytelling in Requirements

20:23 - Google's Approach to Product Vision

24:01 - Top Challenges in Early-Stage Companies

26:39 - Bringing Engineers into the Process Earlier

28:36 - Rethinking Documentation Approaches

30:17 - The Importance of Fundamentals

💡 Featured Insights:

"The goal of documents isn't to better communicate, it's to have better conversations." - Josh Herzig-Marx


📚 Resources Mentioned:

RANDS Leadership Slack Community

Josh's Website: jhm.lol

User Story Mapping Techniques

Lenny's Slack Community


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Product Driven
How to build better software and software teams
Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.

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